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1 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Val Thu 07/24/08, 7:55pm
  Thank you for the response. That clears that up. Blessings, Val
2 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 4:33pm
  Greetings Val!

I am sorry for the delay. I have been very busy this last week.

My short answer is that an act of sin does not constitute rejecting Christ.

This is why I dislike the phrase 'losing one's salvation'. :) One can lose a wallet, without realizing it. However, one cannot 'lose' one's salvation.

Scripture does speak though of those who have fallen away (Heb. 6:4-6). But, the description there seems to be of those who have willfully rejected Christ.

As for your examples, only God knows their status.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
3 Do you know a way to get into the Bible? Answer Heb 8:10 Immanuelsown Thu 07/24/08, 4:16pm
  Hey Californiasurfin,
To relate to you a short, testimony, witness. All Praise to GOD ! !
I was raised a Catholic. But when I got saved, I had never in my life, read a Bible before.
This particular night, I started reading about 1 hr. before, in Gen. trying to read it like any other book, I realized I knew the stories, but felt there was more than just that. I had never prayed, except the prayers we were taught, and everyone recited. This particular night I Prayed, GOD gave me the words to pray, so He could answer them. I prayed, asking Him to open the Bible to me, "give me the understanding I said". Then something strange happened, I heard myself praying, "Dear God you know I don't understand this book, you had it written, by your Holy Spirit". "God please give me understanding, I want to be close to you, help me". Right then it was as though God spoke to me. In answer He said in my spirit, start reading in the (New Test, only), read EVERY short book, they will give you a greater overall knowledge, you will be able to read complete thoughts.
That night, God gave me understanding, and the beginning of knowledge. His Holy Spirit, WILL TEACH YOU if you let HIM. My advice is to read, don't complicate it for yourself, Pray before you open your Bible, asking God to give you Knowledge, Understanding, and Wisdom, then when you start reading EXPECT GOD to answer your PRAYER.
"A BLESSING ON YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD".
In Him Imm
4 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Val Thu 07/24/08, 4:10pm
  Thank you Brother Tim, I will definately read it and try to understand it. Did you see my questions on the illustrations of the three people I was asking about in a previous post? I was waiting to hear what you said about those examples? Its been a couple days ago. If you have time I would like to hear what you have to say. Real life experiences is sometimes clearer to me when applying scripture. Thanks, Val
5 MOSES HOW MANY WRITING Answer Bible general Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 2:18pm
  Greetings Truthseeker!

Traditionally, Moses is considered the author of the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Liberal scholars dispute this view.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
6 books of the bible how many Answer Bible general Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 1:13pm
  Greetings Truthseeker!

There are 66 books in the Old and New Testaments.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
7 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 1:12pm
  Greetings Doc!

I would strongly disagree with your characterization that the Church of the Nazarene is semi-pelegian in doctrine.

Wikipedia says of the use of this term against Arminians:

"In more recent times, the word has been used in the Reformed Protestant camp to designate anyone who deviates from the Augustinian or Calvinist doctrines of sin and grace, most notably Arminians. Many Arminians disagree with this generalization and believe it is libelous to Jacobus Arminius, John Wesley, and the many other Arminians who maintain original sin and the total depravity of the human race."

Please, let's not use strawmen arguments. Nazarenes affirm total depravity. Here is the relevant quote from our statement of faith:

"We believe that sin came into the world through the disobedience of our first parents, and death by sin. We believe that sin is of two kinds: original sin or depravity, and actual or personal sin.

5.1. We believe that original sin, or depravity, is that corruption of the nature of all the offspring of Adam by reason of which everyone is very far gone from original righteousness or the pure state of our first parents at the time of their creation, is averse to God, is without spiritual life, and inclined to evil, and that continually."

Further,

"We believe that the human race’s creation in Godlikeness included ability to choose between right and wrong, and that thus human beings were made morally responsible; that through the fall of Adam they became depraved so that they cannot now turn and prepare themselves by their own natural strength and works to faith and calling upon God."

There is nothing pelegian at all in these statements.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
8 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 12:46pm
  Part II..................

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Yet, what is Entire Sanctification? Scripture speaks of it as something accomplished in the past, as something which is an ongoing process in a believer’s life, and as something yet future. The best way to look at Entire Sanctification is to see it as a multi-faceted spiritual experience which is:

1. Accomplished at the Cross!
2. Applied at Consecration!

Entire Sanctification is Accomplished at the Cross

In one sense, sanctification is an accomplished fact for every believer. Consider the following verses:

1) 1 Cor. 1:2 - "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:"

2) 1 Cor. 6:11 - "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

3) Heb. 10:10 - "And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all."


These verses indicate that all believers are sanctified through faith in Christ and the atoning work of Christ on the cross. At the cross, the power of sin is broken in our lives - as Rom. 6 illustrates - and we are made into new creations (2 Cor. 5:17). The death of Christ on the cross is the Divine act which makes this transformation possible. At the cross, Christ has accomplished through His death what the law could not accomplish in our lives - the taking away of sins. (Rom. 8:3 and Heb. 10:4) Year after year, animal sacrifices were made for the people, but those sacrifices could not take away sins. They were only an annual reminder of sin. But the cross has utterly broken the power of sin.

It is at the cross that our sanctification is made possible.

Entire Sanctification is Applied at Consecration

There is a sense in which sanctification becomes a part of our Christian life at the moment of new birth. It is at that moment that we become new creations. It is at that moment that our old man dies. That is why those in the church at Corinth are called "…those sanctified in Christ Jesus…." (1 Cor. 1:2)

But, it is more of a positional sanctification. We have been declared righteous, even though we may not actually be living righteously. This explains the many passages in Scripture where sanctification is referred to as something which has not yet been experienced by Christians. It also explains why so many Christians are not living holy lives. Sanctification has been accomplished at the cross, but it must be applied at consecration.

Entire sanctification becomes a reality in a believer’s life when he finally comes to grips with the reality of the demand to be holy and the reality of the new creation he has become. When that happens, a believer consecrates himself to Christ fully (Rom. 12:1) and the Holy Spirit purifies his heart from sin (Acts 15:9).

Scripture indicates that sanctification is accomplished in several ways in a believer’s life.

1) It is accomplished by faith (Acts 26:18 and 2 Thess. 2:13).
2) It is accomplished by His sacrifice and blood (Heb. 10:10, Heb. 10:14, Heb. 10:29, and Heb. 13:12).
3) It is accomplished through the Word of God (John 17:17 and Eph. 5:26), and
4) It is accomplished by the supernatural working of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 15:16, 1 Cor. 6:11, 2 Thess. 2:13, and 1 Pet. 1:2).

Through these means and through consecration to Christ, a believer can be entirely sanctified. This is the promise of Rom. 6:22 - "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life." This is the message of Rom. 6 and this is the meaning of the doctrine of entire sanctification - that believers can and should be holy.

As Paul said, "It is God’s will that you should be sanctified…" (2 Thess. 4:3). And, as Paul prayed:

"May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."
1 Thess. 5:23

This has been made possible through the death of Christ and will become a reality in our lives if we will consecrate ourselves to become slaves of righteousness (Rom. 6:19).

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This is definitely a work in progress, but I thought I would share with all of you so that I could benefit from your insights!

Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
9 Who constitutes the church? Note Eph 4:3 Morant61 Thu 07/24/08, 12:45pm
  Greetings Val!

Here is a repost of mine on the doctrine of Entire Sanctification. It is in two parts.

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Greetings Forum!

Some of you are aware that I am in the process of transfering my ordination to the Church of the Nazarene. In the process, I had to write a paper on my view of Sanctification. Here is what I wrote - for your reading pleasure! :-)

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Part I

The Doctrine of Entire Sanctification

The doctrine of entire sanctification is basically an attempt to come to grips with the ethical demand of Scripture to "….be holy, because I am holy!" (Lev. 11:45, 19:1; and 1 Pet. 1:15-16 among other verses.) I say that it is an attempt to come to grips with the ethical demand to be holy because holiness is not our natural state.

Scripture is very clear about our fallen nature:

Rom. 3:23 tells us that "…all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

Rom. 3:10 tells us that "….There is no one righteous, not even one."

Even the best intentioned among us, find Paul’s words in Rom. 7:14-20 to be true of our lives apart from Christ,

"We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it."

Yet, Scripture assures us that it is possible to be holy! The prophets, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, both prophecy of a time when man will be able to live holy lives.

Jeremiah says:

31 ‘‘The time is coming," declares the LORD,
‘‘when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,"
declares the LORD.
33 ‘‘This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD.
‘‘I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people. (Jer. 31:31-33)

Ezekiel says,

"I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

24 "‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. (Ezekiel 36:23-27)

Luke 1:74b-75 says that part of the reason Christ came was "…to enable us to serve him without fear 75 in holiness and righteousness before him all our days."

In Romans 6, Paul makes the case that it is possible to be holy. He says there that:

· We died to sin - Rom. 6:2.
· Our old nature was crucified with Him - Rom. 6:6.
· We are no longer slaves to sin - Rom. 6:6.
· We are not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies - Rom. 6:12.
· Sin shall not be our master - Rom. 6:14.
· We have been set free from sin - Rom. 6:18.

How is this possible? How can a depraved and fallen human being be set free from the power, presence, and penalty of sin? Entire Sanctification is the answer. It is the bridge between what we are apart from Christ and what we can be in Christ.

Continued...........

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Your Brother in Christ,

Tim Moran
10 Do you know a way to get into the Bible? Note Heb 8:10 stjohn Thu 07/24/08, 10:15am
  Brother, Hank: That is a puzzle! In infancy, what do we know but the desires of the flesh?

--"For then I knew but to suck; to repose in what pleased, and cry at what offended my flesh; nothing more."-- St Augustine (354 - 430)


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